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Wednesday 17 November 2010 - 23:18:30

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miniradman says :

 
Well, okay, the genralizations like calling something deathcore or thrash is sorta fact based, but you're being so friggin precise with every little categorization and genres aren't that solid or tangeable as you make them to be. What about bands that experiment and dabble in other genres? What about bands that change their genre over time?

 
for some bands I can understand peoples confusion but for bands like Trivium or Bullet For My Valentine it is a very solid argument that they contain Thrash Influence.
 
The three bands I mentioned are not very experimental and have practicaly stayed the same over their careers. I think that you are not being precise enough when you say Trivium has no Thrash Influence. How am I so precise when I say "Thrashy"? 


It's clear you don't know shit about thrash, otherwise you wouldn't associate Trivium with thrash in any way. I'm leaving it at that, I don't care who agrees with me and who doesn't. I'm getting Sick of hearing about Trivium. Can we move on to some other topic that'll spark another shitstorm, like discussing Bring Me the Horizon's questinable sexual preferences or something?


Wednesday 17 November 2010 - 23:19:32

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InfinityZero says : I was referring to the percentages you made up and whatnot.
also, I didn't say I didn't think Trivium has no thrash influences. I'm just saying, it doesn't matter either way.


DOUBLE Negative ALERT! didn't and didn't

 


Thursday 18 November 2010 - 01:49:39
Oh, yeah, we should probably get off the Trivium topic.
In fact, let's never compare Metalcore with thrash again, guys. It just wasted like, 4 pages of the thread.

Thursday 18 November 2010 - 02:43:01


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InfinityZero says : Oh, yeah, we should probably get off the Trivium topic.
In fact, let's never compare Metalcore with thrash again, guys. It just wasted like, 4 pages of the thread.


Why? We should definitely keep comparing Metalcore and thrash!



Thursday 18 November 2010 - 10:07:49

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InfinityZero says : I was referring to the percentages you made up and whatnot.
also, I didn't say I didn't think Trivium has no thrash influences. I'm just saying, it doesn't matter either way.

 
Percentages were just an estimate.
 
You are right it doesn't matter. But if it doesn't matter why did I get a Nuclear bomb droped on me when I said those bands were thrashy?0

Thursday 18 November 2010 - 10:13:13


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Enigmatick says :
It's clear you don't know shit about thrash, otherwise you wouldn't associate Trivium with thrash in any way.

 
Ummm excuse me? its obvious you don't know shit about Metacore or Trivium's history.
 
But yes I don't know shit about thrash. But shit is enough to know what thrash is associated with.
 
We shall change topic unless someone wants to keep going.0

Thursday 18 November 2010 - 23:15:59

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miniradman says :
 I don't know shit about thrash. 


You know, if you had just said this right away I wouldn't have to have spent 4 fucking pages arguing with you. Jesus man, work with me here.

alright, change topic.

Bring Me The Horizon are homoerotic and do not sound metal in any conceivable way. Discuss.


Thursday 18 November 2010 - 23:54:56
Well, I wouldn't say they're gay, mostly because these types of metal bands are usually in a sort of manliness competition with each other. But those mallgoth haircuts don't help their image, that's for sure. Oh, but wait. I found a story about how the singer, during a live performance, took a piss on a girl in the audience. There was a lack of evidence in court and charges were dropped.
 
As far as them being not metal, I don't think it matters wether or not the band has punk influences, or that they are among the 'mainstream' modern metal bands. I still think these guys are metal. Why do you think BMTH aren't metal?

Friday 19 November 2010 - 04:42:38

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InfinityZero says : Well, I wouldn't say they're gay, mostly because these types of metal bands are usually in a sort of manliness competition with each other. But those mallgoth haircuts don't help their image, that's for sure. Oh, but wait. I found a story about how the singer, during a live performance, took a piss on a girl in the audience. There was a lack of evidence in court and charges were dropped.
 
As far as them being not metal, I don't think it matters wether or not the band has punk influences, or that they are among the 'mainstream' modern metal bands. I still think these guys are metal. Why do you think BMTH aren't metal?


Yeah, they're "heavy" at least when compared to lighter forms of music, yes they use harsh vocals, but those have never been some sort of Pass Go Free! card into the metal realm. They fit better in the punk/screamo/post-hardcore genre of music. I don't know which one specifically, don't listen to much of those genres on account of them sucking.
Lemme put it simply: If you consider them Metalcore, they're more -core than metal.

But remember; I don't Hate on Bring Me The Horizon because they're not metal. I enjoy plenty of non-metal bands and even though we can all agree that metal is the best genre of music ever (if you don't think so I don't know why the fuck you're even here), just because a band isn't considered metal doesn't make them inherently worse than any metal band by default. Hell, there's TONS of terrible metal out there.

I Hate on them because they make terrible music. They just sound like shit. Riffs suck, vocals suck, image makes me wretch. The end.


Friday 19 November 2010 - 10:45:00


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Enigmatick says : 
yes they use harsh vocals, but those have never been some sort of Pass Go Free! card into the metal realm.

 
In some Black Metal it is and alot of screamo bands do this. Aleasna is almost just plain punk metal with a bit of screams and It is classed as metal.
 
and about Bring Me The Horizon... some of their photos look kinda faggy but the music is far from faggy.