Candlemass is an ok band, people describe them as Doom Metal but I think they might be a little too quick. I think they are more like your ordinary Alternative Metal band. Their older stuff could be considered doom(ish). But even that might be pushing the boundaries a little.


yes, more great metal! thanks for this, you always bring the goods Mercernarion

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DOOM DOES NOT EQUAL SLOW. A LOT OF DOOM IS RATHER MIDPACED AND EVEN FAST. GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEAD.

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Fast doom? show me!

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this is fairly uptempo, I'd say it's midpaced, and this gets fast in places:



Many Doom Metal bands tend to be slow, yes, but that's only because it's the proper tempo to allow the riffs to resonate properly. Doom is not defined by its pace, it's defined by having doom riffs.

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I've been listening to While Heaven Wept for ages, but I had no idea they were doom. I always considered bands such as Isole as pure doom metal.

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This sounds more like Blackened Doom Metal rather than pure doom. I mean, when you combine anything with death or black or both! it's probably going to be fast anyway

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See, your perception of doom is rather skewed because you've gotten into it through contemporary bands. If you want a proper perspective of the genre, you have to realize that it's one that's VERY heavily based on Black Sabbath worship. Many doom bands today still take plenty of Sabbath influence (Electric Wizard, Cough) and the general riffing style that Sabbath pioneered is used quite frequently in doom, many bands merge it with other elements as well, and THAT'S what defines the genre. Not speed. The reason a majority of doom is slow is because to have the proper "crushing" effect, you can't just have the notes whiz by you. Pure doom has a lot of overlap with trad Heavy Metal, in Fact, most slow, sluggish trad stuff like Cirith Ungol and Saint Vitus is considered doom for those reasons.

Plus, doom really wasn't an established "thing" until Candlemass and Saint Vitus defined it as such in the 80s. Candlemass more or less pioneered the "epic doom" style with Epicus Doomicus Metallicus, and you have the audacity to not even consider them doom?

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I always knew that Candelmass (old) and Saint Vitus were Doom Metal bands (they were the first bands that I came across when I first exploring the genre). Also, I know that Black Sabbath played a huge role in creating the genre (after reading the wikipedia article that is ). But what I didn't know was how wide the realms of doom were. I mean yeah, sure, there are a few bands out there who merge doom with other genres (such as Toscrew or example) because I always thought of doom as being slow, boring and unmelodious. But Nothing like While Heaven Wept, they were the last bands I would call doom. I also depicted doom as being darker, rawer which something that I consider While Heaven Wept isn't. Or maybe I'm getting normal/generic doom confused with Funeral doom

Either way, I'm going to explore this genre a little more...

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Miniradman, another thing to point out with Doom Metal is that the songs a lot of the time come to a climactic point where things Kick up faster. For example, two very famous doom-metal influencing Black Sabbath songs (Electric Funeral and Black Sabbath) take this song structure. At the same time, slow does not always equate to doom metal. Listen to Burzum's Dunkelheit or a bunch of other Black Metal songs in that vein, or even some Alcest. Slow. Not doom. I think the bass-y production and tone of dread (or doom) is also a big part of what makes Doom Metal doom metal.
...Speaking of Sabbath, I finally got around to buying 'Paranoid' in 180g vinyl and it plays beautifully. I love it. Will post pics of it when I get the time.

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