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Mercenarion
Sunday 31 October 2010 - 19:39:56

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Enigmatick says : Changing the subject, since deathcore is apparently a very eclectic and creative genre, could any of you guys recommend me a few bands that "break the mould" so to say? I would love it if you guys proved me wrong about my whole deathcore-is-stagnant-and-boring shpiel.


I'm not very fond of deathcore, but bands that are close enough to it that even I enjoy would be Darkest Hour, Destriers Gait, Heaven Shall Burn or Vanguard (this one may be hard to find, and it says Finland here, but that one isn't The One I'm talking about).


Darkest Hour is more of a straight-up melodic Death Metal band with -corish tinges, wouldn't consider them deathcore but they're good either way. Destriers Gait was Nothing new, and Heaven Shall Burn is kinda lame outside of their cover of Black Tears.

However, Vanguard was more of what I was looking for. Hot damn, it's like Abigail Williams without all the suck. Calling it deathcore is debatable, it's got more of a "symphonic blackcore" sound to me, if that makes any sense, but that was surprisingly good.


Darkest Hour is more deathcore on the Hidden hands of a Sadist Nation album. Their albums after that were melodic death metal.

miniradman
Monday 01 November 2010 - 06:46:41

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Enigmatick says : Changing the subject, since deathcore is apparently a very eclectic and creative genre, could any of you guys recommend me a few bands that "break the mould" so to say? I would love it if you guys proved me wrong about my whole deathcore-is-stagnant-and-boring shpiel.

 
dispite out differences I'd be glad to give you some bands and songs.
 
Mirror of Dead Faces (More Technical) - This Is My Curse
Bless The Fallen - Albright
About A Plane Crash. - Seasons
A Life Once Lost (some may consider this band to be Metalcore) - Vulture
Rose Funeral - Gods Hideos Creation or Under a Godless Sky
They: Swarm - The Mundane Corruption
Suffokate. - The Skies Were Filled With Fire
 
Theses bands are very different from the mainstream Deathcore bands.
 

Demogorefest
Monday 01 November 2010 - 16:17:28
one "Deathcore" band that i'm kinda confused as to why they're labeled "Deathcore" is Animosity, i listened to their song tooth Grinder without the knowledge that they all wore Suffocation and Misfits t-shirts and all the other California trends, and its actually a pretty decent song

ChelseaGrin
Monday 01 November 2010 - 17:52:00
I know right... Everyone should just drop it lol.. we've pretty much come to the fact that you either LOVE deathcore or Hate deathcore.
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psycho_metal says : Okay guys, this is getting nowhere. Just stop this, you are starting to get ridiculous.


miniradman
Tuesday 02 November 2010 - 07:42:59

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Demogorefest says : one "Deathcore" band that i'm kinda confused as to why they're labeled "Deathcore" is Animosity, i listened to their song tooth Grinder without the knowledge that they all wore Suffocation and Misfits t-shirts and all the other California trends, and its actually a pretty decent song

 
This is my opinon, yes I know someone will be all like RAWWWW! when I say this but this is what I think.
 
I think that Deathcore and Brutal Death Metal (in particular) sound very similar. They both have blast beats, growls/screams, Pig squeals and breakdowns. The only thing that separates them is that Brutal Death is more Extreme and Deathcore is Heavier. I'm just putting that out there0

InfinityZero
Tuesday 02 November 2010 - 11:59:03
Well, lots of genres utilize blast beats and screaming/grouwling. I don't really recall breakdowns in Brutal Death Metal, either. Deathcore has more standard songwriting structure: (verse-chorus-verse-chrous-solo-chorus) while Brutal death does not. Not to mention lyrical themes. Deathcore has a lot of painfully corny lyrics while Brutal death has generic lyrics. At least Brutal death is entertaining in trying to Disgust whoever looks at the lyrics. Also, deathcore has a more syrupy-sweet production with guitars front and centre and bass pushed back while Brutal death has a lot of Kick in the production with the bass much louder.

miniradman
Tuesday 02 November 2010 - 12:03:56

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InfinityZero says : Well, lots of genres utilize blast beats and screaming/grouwling. I don't really recall breakdowns in Brutal Death Metal, either. Deathcore has more standard songwriting structure: (verse-chorus-verse-chrous-solo-chorus) while Brutal death does not. Not to mention lyrical themes. Deathcore has a lot of painfully corny lyrics while Brutal death has generic lyrics. At least Brutal death is entertaining in trying to Disgust whoever looks at the lyrics. Also, deathcore has a more syrupy-sweet production with guitars front and centre and bass pushed back while Brutal death has a lot of Kick in the production with the bass much louder.

 
Breakdowns in Brutal Death are as rare as solos in Black Metal. Its not common but there are some there.0

Enigmatick
Wednesday 03 November 2010 - 04:35:54

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InfinityZero says : Well, lots of genres utilize blast beats and screaming/grouwling. I don't really recall breakdowns in Brutal Death Metal, either. Deathcore has more standard songwriting structure: (verse-chorus-verse-chrous-solo-chorus) while Brutal death does not. Not to mention lyrical themes. Deathcore has a lot of painfully corny lyrics while Brutal death has generic lyrics. At least Brutal death is entertaining in trying to Disgust whoever looks at the lyrics. Also, deathcore has a more syrupy-sweet production with guitars front and centre and bass pushed back while Brutal death has a lot of Kick in the production with the bass much louder.

 
Breakdowns in Brutal Death are as rare as solos in Black Metal. Its not common but there are some there.0


wait what
The ENTIRE FUCKING GENRE of slam death (which is a branch of Brutal death) is composed almost entirely of breakdowns. Don't believe me? Listen to Digested Flesh, Devourment or Cephalotripsy.

Oh, and thanks for the recs. I HAVE heard of most of those bands however, and not only would I consider some of those bands pretty "mainstream" (Rose Funeral and A Life Once Lost are both signed to a major label and are pretty popular) but I wouldn't consider them very groundbreaking either. Still, didn't mind Mirror Of Dead Faces or whatever the name was.

Oh, and for what it's worth: I've heard the guys from Suffokate are a buncha pricks. I've heard from multiple people who have played shows with them/ran venues that hosted them that they were just a stick in the ass to get along with.


miniradman
Wednesday 03 November 2010 - 06:34:32

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InfinityZero says : Well, lots of genres utilize blast beats and screaming/grouwling. I don't really recall breakdowns in Brutal Death Metal, either. Deathcore has more standard songwriting structure: (verse-chorus-verse-chrous-solo-chorus) while Brutal death does not. Not to mention lyrical themes. Deathcore has a lot of painfully corny lyrics while Brutal death has generic lyrics. At least Brutal death is entertaining in trying to Disgust whoever looks at the lyrics. Also, deathcore has a more syrupy-sweet production with guitars front and centre and bass pushed back while Brutal death has a lot of Kick in the production with the bass much louder.

 
Breakdowns in Brutal Death are as rare as solos in Black Metal. Its not common but there are some there.0


wait what
The ENTIRE FUCKING GENRE of slam death (which is a branch of Brutal death) is composed almost entirely of breakdowns. Don't believe me? Listen to Digested Flesh, Devourment or Cephalotripsy.

Oh, and thanks for the recs. I HAVE heard of most of those bands however, and not only would I consider some of those bands pretty "mainstream" (Rose Funeral and A Life Once Lost are both signed to a major label and are pretty popular) but I wouldn't consider them very groundbreaking either. Still, didn't mind Mirror Of Dead Faces or whatever the name was.

Oh, and for what it's worth: I've heard the guys from Suffokate are a buncha pricks. I've heard from multiple people who have played shows with them/ran venues that hosted them that they were just a stick in the ass to get along with.

 
Yes I agree with you on the Breakdowns part.
 
I thought you would have liked Mirror Of Dead Faces. That is why I put them First 0

InfinityZero
Friday 05 November 2010 - 01:37:02
I decided to listen to Suicide Silence's 'No Time To Bleed' to see what I think and to expand my opinions on deathcore, since I have only heard a select few songs.
I might post a review on it.
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