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Wednesday 23 May 2012 - 02:27:59
What else do you need other than good riffs? You sounded more like you were hyping D666 up as opposed to criticizing them :P

Entombed rules. If you don't hear the rule-age I guess I can't help but feel sorry for you. Agreed on Obituary though, honestly not a fan.

Ne Obliviscaris is a band that somehow gets lauded by pretty much everybody as some kind of forward-thinking prog Masterpiece, and they suck, they've always sucked, the new album they're putting out is only getting them more hype, all they do is write Black Metal for people that think that Black Metal is some sort of artistic Dead End (read: wankers)


Wednesday 23 May 2012 - 02:54:59
Ne Ob is indeed really, really overrated. I don't Hate them, however.

Entombed always sounded meh. Nihilist, on the other Hand, fucking destroys.


Wednesday 23 May 2012 - 08:20:30
My continued list (sorry, if I post doubles (not really))-

Krypt - Possibly one of the blandest attempts at emmulating original black metal. They least they could possibly do is actually move forward with their music geez... If I Wanted to listen to old Mayhem or old Marduk or old Behemoth, I would listen to old Mayhem and old Marduk and old behemoth. There is a reason why chimps don't live amongst us...

Arsonists Get All The Girls - just crappy Deathcore really... not even good by experimental standards, I don't even consider them experimental

Antediluvian - heard them, got bored with them and moved on. I don't particulary see why people keep orgasming over this band because pretty fuarking boring if you ask me. I tried my hardest to sit through Through The Cervix Of Hawaah but I just couldn't. ps. they have the shittiest vocals.

Augury - They're ok, but not amazing. I've read a few articles on the Metal Archives and The One of Spirit of Metal about these guys and I rekon it's terribly over-hyped. Also their album Fragmentary Evidence did not give me a boner... why do people insist that it's an aphrodisiac?

Quo Vadis - This is another terribly overrated band which isn't particularly any good. The music is loose, plain, one-dimensional and downright boring. They seem to be stuck in between melodic death/ and technical death, without making up their mind. I hope the Canadians aren't too upset about their Beloved Quo Vadis.

Aegaeon - Another terrible progressive Deathcore band, if people conceeded the notion that queers play deathcore. Aegaeon would probably fit that bill.

Disfiguring The Goddess - I am now going to mention this is every single one of my comments that I post here.

Imperial Crystalline Entombment - I can't really see the hype over these guys, they just sound like regular black / death to me. Or maybe it's because I've been listening to too much Apotheosys.


Wednesday 23 May 2012 - 12:35:15

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Enigmatick says :
Ne Obliviscaris is a band that somehow gets lauded by pretty much everybody as some kind of forward-thinking prog Masterpiece, and they suck, they've always sucked, the new album they're putting out is only getting them more hype, all they do is write Black Metal for people that think that Black Metal is some sort of artistic Dead End (read: wankers)

Portal of I is barely even black metal. Probably more progressive melodic Death Metal than anything else, and their folk rock/metal influences are Far greater than their Black Metal ones. There are only a few short instances where I hear any kind of Black Metal influence, with some of the guitar riffs and vocals at times. The band just calls themselves Extreme metal, and considering the spectra of genres in which they play, is about the only thing that can really describe them. Progressive black doesn't cut the mustard...


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Ne Ob is indeed really, really overrated.

I thought you said Portal of I was instant album of the year
If that isn't giving it a high rating, or "overrating" it, what is?

Entombed is another old school Death Metal band that I love. Sure, when I tried their newer stuff, I didn't really like the taste. But, visiting their entire discography, I've discovered that Left Hand Path is a kickass album.


Wednesday 23 May 2012 - 14:20:15

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Ne Ob is indeed really, really overrated.

I thought you said Portal of I was instant album of the year
If that isn't giving it a high rating, or "overrating" it, what is?



After a few more listens, it became more and more boring.


Wednesday 23 May 2012 - 15:23:22
I find that if I listen to an album enough times in rapid succession, it becomes slightly tedious. I find that I'm one of those people need to get past the fatigue of listening to the same thing over and over for a long period of time.

But Portal of I isn't boring me yet :P

Thursday 24 May 2012 - 05:35:20
@ Ne Obliviscaris: There's not a single trace of real Black Metal Essence in there. It's a Black Metal album for people that don't like Black Metal and need to flatter their intelligence without having to really understand what's going on. Yeah, they have long songs with lots of tempo changes and violins and shit but the music is really simple, basic, linear and consonant when viewed on its own, it's music for idiot metal dorks that like to be all "cerebral" only when it suits them.

Antediluvian is certainly not overrated, in Fact they're more UNDERRATED than anything. They're one of the few bands really moving Death Metal forward, their style is fresh and takes influence from old and new to create a Stranger, more meaty sound than anything that preceded it. The attention they get within the underground (which is a lot, lately, with the release of their new album, although I'm a few months late to that party) is all 100% deserved.

Augury's cool. I have Concealed and it throws everything including the kitchen sink at you and still manages to keep the Death Metal relevant in the music. Definitely a very hyped band, but I mean, any band that does ANY sort of experimentation and still sounds heavy enough so your average Joe Headbanger doesn't feel TOO insecure for listening to a more understated band gets praise, and at the very least it's reserved praise, these guys don't get nearly as much praise as, say, Deathspell Omega (who have a retarded amount of hype and though they have a lot of detractors, it's still not enough)

as for Quo Vadis - what the Hell do you mean by "loose"? I've only heard Defiant Imagination and it's one of the more technically proficient albums I've heard, as is most Death Metal stuff from Quebec. How is it in any way loose? I can't really say you're wrong for calling you boring- I think they've got a lot of fairly interesting things going on that the melodeath scene hasn't really toched upon in much detail in their music, they're sort of similar to Arsis but without the American flavor that they possess, but hey, one man's trash is another man's treasure. However, something like the instrumental prowess and meticulousness of a given band is something that can actually be quantitatively measured- it is with complete objectivity that someone can state that an album is sloppily, or loosely played and when an album is instrumentally tight- and Quo Vadis is probably one if the last bands I would Ever describe by that adjective.

Wow, I'm defending bands that mini's criticizing. What a turn of events this is.


Thursday 24 May 2012 - 05:46:56
I concur with Enig. Antediluvian (alongside Cruciamentum) is one of the best recently formed Death Metal bands.

Augury rules. I love their celestial atmosphere along with the bass. Sadly their bassist left... oh well.

As for overrated, going off of what was previously said, Deathspell Omega. I only refer to Paracletus though. Great, but Far from amazing.


Thursday 24 May 2012 - 08:30:01

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Enigmatick says : @ Ne Obliviscaris: There's not a single trace of real Black Metal Essence in there. It's a Black Metal album for people that don't like Black Metal and need to flatter their intelligence without having to really understand what's going on. Yeah, they have long songs with lots of tempo changes and violins and shit but the music is really simple, basic, linear and consonant when viewed on its own, it's music for idiot metal dorks that like to be all "cerebral" only when it suits them.

A Black Metal album with not a single trace of Black Metal Essence
rrrrrright...

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Antediluvian is certainly not overrated, in Fact they're more UNDERRATED than anything. They're one of the few bands really moving Death Metal forward, their style is fresh and takes influence from old and new to create a Stranger, more meaty sound than anything that preceded it. The attention they get within the underground (which is a lot, lately, with the release of their new album, although I'm a few months late to that party) is all 100% deserved.

...ehh, I don't hear any of that. It's good for you if you do.

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Augury's cool. I have Concealed and it throws everything including the kitchen sink at you and still manages to keep the Death Metal relevant in the music. Definitely a very hyped band, but I mean, any band that does ANY sort of experimentation and still sounds heavy enough so your average Joe Headbanger doesn't feel TOO insecure for listening to a more understated band gets praise, and at the very least it's reserved praise, these guys don't get nearly as much praise as, say, Deathspell Omega (who have a retarded amount of hype and though they have a lot of detractors, it's still not enough)

Augury is cool, but not worth the 100% ratings that I see over the internet. They're by no Means a bad band.

Indeed it is a turn of events, however, I don't think it'll last


Thursday 24 May 2012 - 14:03:47
Liturgy is similar to what Ne Ob is, in a way, in the sense that they take black metal's archetypal "sound" and then strip away everything that makes Black Metal what it is until they're left with this hollow sound of...i dunno, progression? It's like you said, they can't really be considered a Black Metal band anymore even though you can hear it in there.