I don't really think so. Muslims allowed different religions during the medieval and renaissance. I suppose you're talking about the arab invasion in southern europe during the 7th and 8th century and the ottaman invasions during the 16th and 17 century. Do you know why there were so many jews in the iberian peninsula during the early medieval? Because the muslims allowed different religions in their kingdoms. In the christian parts of Eurupe jews weren't very welcome as you might be aware of. It was the same thing with the ottomans, they allowed different religions as long as they payed their taxes

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Eh, I wasn't trying to glorify war, I just stated that matter of factly. although it was not wise of me to go into the 'what if' zone.
 
I did learn in history that the ottoman sultan's goal was to 'conquer the world'. Sure there seemed to have been more tolerant at some points of time, but converting the conquered populations was certainly on their agenda. But since converting doesn't happen overnight, since a lot of christian people were quite Stubborn in their beliefs and would rather Die than convert and all that drama, (and they were more interested in the political side specifically when the Ottoman Empire was losing Power) plus south eastern european people are an unruly bunch, they imposed vassal states also had to pay with women and children (which were then raised as muslims).
 
Also, when going to war, they took children they caught, raised them as one of their own and sent them back to Fight their natal land. (always thought that was a super Evil plan)  

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I don't understand what you mean about this comment.  Weaker as in not as strong.  It is obvious that men are clearly the stronger sex.  That isn't an insult.  I understand you might not want to agree, but men and women are not the same in terms of physical make-up.   Also men are considered "vessels", too.  Isnt that another one of your contentions with Christianity?



To your point of the Original Sin, In this story the women looks like she was simply duped, but the guy is the dummy here.  He ate of the fruit undeceived while the women was deceived.  Why shouldn't the women IN PLACES not look like they have really poor judgement, and why shouldn't they be referred to in a rather condescending way?  The Bible makes men look the same exact way.   You claimed you read the Bible, and you didn't see that?  No one in the Bible but Jesus comes off as being perfect, and the reason for that is NoNe of us are perfect but JESUS.



Again you are way off base.  You are familiar with Rahab the harlot.  In that story she helped Joshua and his men freely.  She wasn't being submissive.  She didn't have to help.  She did this knowing fully if caught she would be executed.  In the new Testament she was mentioned 3 times and also in the Hebrew's hall of fame, the book of Hebrews that mention great people in the old Testament.  There is also a women in the old Testament name Ruth.  To say what you said about women not being looked  at as being wise you completely overlooked the entire book of Ruth, btw named after a (HOLD YOUR BREATH) a WOMEN.



Understatement of the year.  A Tad more strict on what you should do if you don't want to go to Hell?  No Joke.  In that religion one doesn't know if they are really going to Hell unless you commit jehad and Kill yourself and several of the infidel with you. 
In Christianity one only needs to as JESUS to forgive them of their sins, and HE will.
btw I haven't claimed to have read the Bible until now.  Yes I have read it and am reading it. 
You seem to be pretty smart and patient with me.   I appreciate that.

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and I cant wait to buy Slayers "50 years of AGGRESSION"
...when it comes out in 2030.

you're an idiot

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"Your GOD died on a cross. Mine holds a hammer in his hand. Make your own conclusions." --Nergal (Behemoth)

The bible is a load of bullshit lies anyway. It's all fictional stories that have morals teaching common sense and logic (i.e. don't be Lazy, etc.)

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"Your GOD died on a cross. Mine holds a hammer in his hand. Make your own conclusions." --Nergal (Behemoth)

Reading the bible right now, I came across this funny thing in Numbers in which GOD kills a few dissenting Israelites who are annoyed because GOD is holding a select few people (including Moses) in much higher regard than everyone else, and that's not fair. So a few people get freaked out and start to Distrust GOD (who wouldn't, after that?). So for some reason GOD waits until this group of people grows to 2000 and kills all of them. After that the group of Israelites gets divided against each other and one side thinks that the whole GOD thing isn't fair.
 
So GOD kills a further 14,000 Israelites.
 
These are the same Israelites that GOD spent all of Exodus trying to rescue from Slavery, by the way. In Fact, earlier on GOD was considering wiping them all out because he thought they were annoying.
 
The Bible is fun.

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But why are you so edgy InfinityZero? Did your parents force you to go to church and now you'll 'get back' at them by being a millitant Atheist?


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"Gayboy has been warned for this message"
 
Why? He didn't say anything offensive. He said something sort of rude and subversive. We all do it
 
Anyway, I don't understand what you mean by 'militant atheist'. I don't believe in GOD and I find religious mythology amusing. If I were militant, I'd be storming churches with pretentious atheistic protests and things like that. And let's say that, hypothetically, I was an Atheist out of rebellion. Why is that relevant? There might have been people way back during flat Earth theory times that thought that the world was round out of rebellion. As long as you're able to back up your point, the reason you initially started to believe a certain thing isn't relevant.
 
If you're honestly curious, I was a devout Catholic for a long time. I Wanted to be close to GOD and Avoid Hell, so I thought that reading the Bible would be a good way to understand who GOD is and what he wants from people. Forced Incest, human Sacrifice, rape, illogical Justice, and genocide ran rampent in both Old and New Testament. I went through a lot of denial and gradual changes for the next few years until I realized I didn't believe in GOD any more. In short, reading the Bible out of devotion is what made me stop believing.
 
I'm curious to know what your opinions are.

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Clearly you only have an entry level theological understanding of the Bible. You do realise that only the New Testament and the word of Moses is applicable to Christians, and there are very few of the 'rapes' and 'illogical injustices' in the NT. The reason for this is the scribes and the Pharisees, who you will remember Jesus struck out against for their corruption. The Pharisees were the lawmakers of the Jews along with the Sadducees and Essenes. The Pharisees were Corrupt, hence why the Messiah, Jesus, came to build the new covenant of the Judeans with GOD and End the Corruption of the Pharisees. Unfortunately the Pharisees turned from GOD by rejecting the Messiah, therefore the Christians, not the Jews, are God's chosen people. Evidence of this is the diaspora that followed the Jewish Expulsion from Judea by Emperor Hadrian in 136 AD after the Bar Kokba revolt. Following the diaspora the Jews were spread out around the Roman Empire, Europe and North Africa, as well as the Kazhars of southern Russia, who practiced the mysticism of Kaabala. The Pharisees, afetr the diaspora, remained as the sole surviving law makers and thus had complete control of the Jewish people in Europe. The Pharisees compiled what they believed to be the will of GOD in the Talmud. They are forbidden to speak of what the Talmud contains, but through interrogation and our own study we have found the True nature of the Talmud. You can look into this yourself, Ted Pike's The Other Israel has much of this information, as does the former Jewish, turned Orthodox Christian Brother Nathanael. But to return to my point, there is no logical way to reject the GOD of modern civilisation, as you can see with the declining influence of the church in modern Europe the entire continent is being turned over to the cultural Marxism that runs Rampant in Western Europe. The USSR fell because of it's lack of GOD, they are only now returning to the church, the west is turning to Godlessness and will soon be Overrun by non-Europeans. Accept Christianity, for it is prophecised that the land of Israel will never be in peace unless the Jews accept Christ, Israel will bear the anti-Christ. Save yourself.

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In case nobody here remembers the charter they've ticked when signing up to the forums (although it was Forgotten in the technical guide), heavy political and religious arguments/discussions (which are non-metal related) are banned from the forums...

Arguments like this cause problems which shouldn't exist (especially on a Metal site).

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