Again, massive arrogance, man. You're basically saying 'oooh, I can't argue with you two becuase you're soooo dumb and your answers are so illogical compared to my polished, well-rounded, logical smart-ass GODLY answers. Kiss my over-educated feet, bitches.'
I can handle someone who disagrees with me, that's what these discussions are for, but stop putting your Ideas on a pedestal.
 


 
No, I don't agree, 'cause usually when a guy jerks out a spermload women don't end up pregnant. They clean up and move on with their day. And oh, I have to say it's also quite onoriginal. All major fetishes have been treaded and retreaded in porn/hentai ad nauseum. There's no concept, no message, it's just about marketing. I can honestly say I've never heard of someone in the porn business saying 'I have a deep message I want to convey through my vids of me pissing on women' or I want to express my creativity and my originality by posting vids of me and my girlfriend hiring people for 3-ways'. I've only ever heard them say 'eh, sounded like fun' or 'eh, good way to get laid/make money'.
Giger's art had a specific message and idea, whereas porn is meant to market to people with overractive sex-drives, and that's about it.

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InfinityZero says :  
pls don't put word ''marketing'' in discussion... that's whole another aspect and we talking not about marketing on this situation... and believe me,i'm not sayn' that you should ''kiss my smartass logical ass bitches'',that's not my way to talk with person,i'm just trying to explain why i Hate to discuss something with you and enigmatick... that's because you two even can't understand properly,the conceptual Ideas of my posts,so unless any moderator gives me rights to strip Down that Ideas for you guys on visual level (posting pics and discussing their concept),there's no point in discussion,now you see?! i'm not sayng that i'm more smart than anyone or you are dumber than me,i'm not even sayng that someone is dumb (except the post when enigmatick said that crafting and art is different things),the problem is that i just can't discuss when you can't understand what i'm sayng dude... 

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Scapegoat to rock the boat, yeah, we need someone expendable
Volunteers to face the fears, can we be

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Hentai doesnt suggest stopping overpopulation . You must always place everything you see in the correct total picture . Hentai focuses on Sex , like any other type of porn . It doesnt suggest anything . Now if by guys fullfilling their desires with masturbating watching hentai and not creating children , that doesnt mean thats their purpose , or that they got such an idea from hentais .
On the other hand , watching that drawing of sexual acts that only one of them includes protection , you cant possibly use it to masturbate . You will either discard it as disgusting , or you will watch behind the picture and see the symbolism .

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And to his praises we shall always sing
Look what he has done for us, he's filled us up with cheer
Lord bless Cha

Also no , no pictures . Just no .

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oh he ought to be an admiral, a sultan, or a King
And to his praises we shall always sing
Look what he has done for us, he's filled us up with cheer
Lord bless Cha

 


 

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well i'm talking from enigmatick's and zero's point of view (not mine)...   they said that porn and hentai are ''jerking off'' materials,so i created logical chain against their statement that ''hentai isn't art'' from their second statement ''that hentai is fap material''. now you see??? i have statements from them and here they are.
1.hentai is ''fap mat.''2.hentai isn't art.3.giger's artwork is art because of it's concept that holds message against overpopulation.
also there's logical form. that's true in 99% of casses  ''more jerking=less population''  right?!  
   and self-destruction of their Ideas are ready... xD

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Scapegoat to rock the boat, yeah, we need someone expendable
Volunteers to face the fears, can we be

You still failed to tell me why art and Craft are the same thing. Craft is the learning of a skill, a trade, like wiring electrical outlets or building a house. Art is creating something for a creative purpose-it doesn't serve a practical purpose, it's meant to Invoke emotion or thought. Why are those two things the same? I'd really like to know.

EDIT: The reason hentai isn't art is because the "artist" who creates the hentai creates it only to serve a practical purpose, that is, to get people off. His (or her, though I don't think that many women draw this stuff) reasons for creating the medium are not the same as that of a normal artists, therefore I don't really consider it art. Now, having said that, there's a VAST spectrum of different kinds of pornographical material that COULD be construed as art, and it's hard to tell where to draw the line in these things. It's an ambiguous thing and I really don't understand why you consider it such a big deal that we take hentai seriously. Just milk your lizard and leave us alone, thanks.

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InfinityZero says :  
that's what i'm talking about... you see abusement even when there isn't...  that's why i don't wan't discussion...  i asked you so many times,just read carefully what i'm posting.

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Scapegoat to rock the boat, yeah, we need someone expendable
Volunteers to face the fears, can we be

ok,let's start from art ok?!  and i'm not going to prove you something,from my point of view,i'm gonna prove it by your own words.... so tell me,what is art? and why humanity needs art?

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Scapegoat to rock the boat, yeah, we need someone expendable
Volunteers to face the fears, can we be

Art is the product of human creativity that does not serve any real practical purpose outside of invoking emotions.

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