i see post-hardcore as a dumbed Down version of metalcore. mainly the short song structure of many Hardcore songs has transferred over. and Post Hardcore took that, and addded a Tad more complexity. but not the the Metalcore sort.

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"Raise your swords up High!,
See The Black Birds Fly!,
Let them hear your rage!,
Show no fear!......Attack!!!!!"
- Amon Amarth,

Are you aware that you know Nothing of post-hardcore and Metalcore or do you not realize you're talking out of your ass?

Not only was post-hardcore NOT influenced by Metalcore (it was more influenced by pure Hardcore punk and noise rock in the mid 80's) but it actually came before Metalcore, too.

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I concur

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Finally I agree with you on something. Post-Hardcore isn't really influenced my Metalcore unless its the bands desicsion to do so. But most usually retain their sound from Hardcore and basic punk rock.

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I remember having fun once, it was terrible...

Agreed with that but wth is Red Jumpsuit Apparatus doing in the post-hardcore section? RJA is more like alternative metal/rock with some screamo influences

i'm saying that Metalcore is a more complex post-hardcore. how about this. use Post-Hardcore as an umbrella term for all things that have Hardcore elements, Metalcore and such.

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"Raise your swords up High!,
See The Black Birds Fly!,
Let them hear your rage!,
Show no fear!......Attack!!!!!"
- Amon Amarth, Enigmatick

No it fucking isn't, it's a genre of its own, it's not an umbrella term. You clearly know Nothing of the genres so stop pretending you do.

oh and for the record: all modern post-hardcore sucks ass, because they decided to add pop and electro elements and in general just fag it up a whole load, but old 90's post-hardcore is actually okay.

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way to throw the baby out with the bath water
 

they way you just contradicted your self there makes me

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I remember having fun once, it was terrible...

Contradictio intra terminis

lol, i find it hilarious how something like this has riled you up so much. it's fucking music. lets leave it at that. it's a form of fucking punk. and thats what it is. point blank.

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"Raise your swords up High!,
See The Black Birds Fly!,
Let them hear your rage!,
Show no fear!......Attack!!!!!"
- Amon Amarth,