Sometimes we have the tendency to store our thinking into little organized drawers and when someone asks us something, we just open them and Eject all the already formed opinions about morality, common sense, human character. Me included, I commit the same mistake without thinking. 
And we so often forget to expand our minds and wonder about the essence evolving actions and thoughts. It Means there are people interested in Humanity issues. But sometimes, you cannot understand just by using morals and logic. Being tolerant is the best way to expand your horizons, by thinking of the world as a whole and you being part of it, joined with everyone and everything, instead of distancing yourself by criticizing and giving labels to other people. | Earine says :
But sometimes, you cannot understand just by using morals and logic. Being tolerant is the best way to expand your horizons, by thinking of the world as a whole and you being part of it, joined with everyone and everything, instead of distancing yourself by criticizing and giving labels to other people. |
| Earine says : Hey everyone. I personally prefer to look upon this subject in a more introspective way. Thinking about the feelings that would make someone commit suicide helps you to centralize on it much better than using it as a Tool to separate strong people from weak people and judging who has the better reasons to end his/her own life. There’s an expression in the book “Werther” from Goethe which I’m particularly fond of, which goes more or less like “the ones who choose to end their lives aren’t doing it because they Hate it, but because they love life so much” - by not being able to stand the feeling of watching life decaying. It doesn’t matter what the reason is. It can be a Champion of athletics Doomed to a wheelchair for the rest of his life, or a whining emo kid with no friends. There aren’t justified or unjustified causes for suicide, because the emotion of ultimate Pain, fear and Despair is basically the same, this overly strong feeling that gives people the will to end their own lives. We shouldn’t just Judge who’s got a reason to commit suicide and who doesn’t. Nor we should Judge others for being strong or weak. You surely don’t want to get your vision limited by these society stereotypes. Sometimes we have the tendency to store our thinking into little organized drawers and when someone asks us something, we just open them and Eject all the already formed opinions about morality, common sense, human character. Me included, I commit the same mistake without thinking. And we so often forget to expand our minds and wonder about the essence evolving actions and thoughts. I’ve seen members here building little lists of people who have noble reasons to Kill themselves and people who doesn’t; I’ve seen posts in this topic like “People who commit suicide are weak, I too had problems and I didn’t do it”. But… as relative as this matter is, can you, with this life statement, Judge the feelings that Betrayed others’ hearts? Don’t take me wrong. I’m glad we are all having this discussion. It Means there are people interested in Humanity issues. But sometimes, you cannot understand just by using morals and logic. Being tolerant is the best way to expand your horizons, by thinking of the world as a whole and you being part of it, joined with everyone and everything, instead of distancing yourself by criticizing and giving labels to other people. |
. You mostly cover the whole subject . Sadly , life is complicated . Judging isnt only a way to Lord over others , nor make ourselves feel better . Its also a way of understanding . Seeing the motives behind it and not stumbling on the ACT itself . Its not to blame the others for poor or good , right or wrong choices (who are we to do so anyway) but to put ourselves in a situation , to think of the "why? " . Of course that needs maturity and the ability to place yourself in a situation you have never been . Isnt that what humans do in their whole lives ? Observing, so they can be ready when its their time to act . Of course such knowledge is only theoretical , and the person may never be able to act as he/she planned to , but as happens in all things better to have a background , a solid opinion , no matter which that is , so you can deal with it . Its mostly about ourselves . Frankly , (and i really know that ) , those people dont give a damn if we think its right or wrong , nor that would change. As you said when you reach and cross your limits (for no matter what reason) , anything else doesnt seem to matter and that might lead to ending up your life (justified or not ) . Ending up your life is just the result . And overated (cruel ? ) in my opinion . Also i would prefer to know the reason and sharing opinion always gives you a better insight. What could be different ? Could we go talk to the Emo kid and share our time with him/her instead of laughing at his/hers suicidial thoughts ? Could we shown our understanding to the crippled man instead of ingoring him ? What better way to be openminded than talking about it , exchanging opinions so WE can be better as persons , learning from our own mistakes that led them to those actions ? Cause dont be fooled , if the nerd kid we used to laugh at, blew his/hers brains with a gun its our fault too. . No person can have a complete opinion about a subject if that opinion is not tested in arguements and i am sure you had your own share of talking about it too . Its not about using stereotypes "i agree , i disagree with suicide",for the mature mind, its beyond that . I am sure that if someone here isnt doing just chit chat (and i hope not) he/she have learned a lot by putting aside his/her arrogance "i have the absolute truth" and observed the others opinions . 
cant talk about any life experience really because i think my life have been all good this far | Hildir says : suicide is only a way of saying that you cant deal with ur emotions or problems in life or that your scared to Face them. Stop saying your life sucks And fucking Accept what is happening to you and FACE Your problem Fight for what you truly Love. Even in the darkest moments when you think all hope is gone and that ur life has no meaning to you and that you dont want to live no more WELL LOOK DEEP IN YOU AND YOULL FIND SOMETHING MORE POWERFUL,STRONGER,BETTER THAN EVERY THING THAT THING IS METAL MY FRIEND My opinion |
| Broken_Mind says : citation :
Well yes, it's true. People that wants to commit suicide are weak. BUT FUCK IT'S NOT WITH PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT THEY WILL GET STRONGER.! Stop ditching and HELP THEM if you want them to get stronger, or shut up. I Hate people like you. |
| BlackForst says : citation :
plz don't be a forum stalker... its only his opinion u don't have to get so pissed. relax. |
| Broken_Mind says : citation :
I know!!..I'm so sorry. I've been tinking all day about that post I really don't know what happened and why I freaked out so much. It just made me feel so bad. There'se something big behind it but I won't talk about it on the forum so everybody can see it. |
