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Friday 01 April 2011 - 22:49:59

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deathey says :


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InfinityZero says : Oh, and deathey, why is it that art HAS to be objective, and have a totally rigid dictionary definition? Why can't art be subjective? Art Means different things to different people. And I think art is more fluid than what you take it for.
check my older posts,i already said the same that you are sayn' now but you disagreed with me! 

 
Seems like we swapped opinions then, because you're trying mighty hard to convince us that hentai/everything is art.

Friday 01 April 2011 - 23:01:17




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InfinityZero says :




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deathey says :






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InfinityZero says : Oh, and deathey, why is it that art HAS to be objective, and have a totally rigid dictionary definition? Why can't art be subjective? Art Means different things to different people. And I think art is more fluid than what you take it for.
check my older posts,i already said the same that you are sayn' now but you disagreed with me! 

 
Seems like we swapped opinions then, because you're trying mighty hard to convince us that hentai/everything is art.
everything that contains pure (sometimes pretty animalistic and basic) emotions,is an art (no matter how different is one's point of view about that)....-everything (even sitting silent) contains emotions=everything is art! and i didn't swapped anything... i'm repeating myself,everyone has rights to have his own opinion about something,but it doesn't Means that he/she has rights to abuse someones opinions by stating their own.for example you have right to say that you don't think about hentai as an art,that's cool and well and etc. but when you are naming it as a ''fap material'',you sayng that i' m loosing my time and nerves to create ''fap material'' and this isn't art and by sayng this,you literally abusing me as an artist... and MAYBE because i'm Abused i'll start thinking about this everyday and every night... MAYBE i'll start hating my art because of that... and MAYBE you destroied all artistic nature inside me,by sayng that 2 fucking words... that's equal to Kill human...  now you see my point of view? 

Friday 01 April 2011 - 23:04:41
Then doesn't that rob art of any special quality, if everything is art?

Friday 01 April 2011 - 23:06:43

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InfinityZero says : Then doesn't that rob art of any special quality, if everything is art?
for example?

Friday 01 April 2011 - 23:09:24
If everytyhing is art then art is Nothing special.
It's common, there would be no surprises, Nothing would be daring or out there, because if everything was art it would make all art monotonous.
Special Means unique or with some uncommon features, but if everything was special it would defeat the purpose of the term.

Friday 01 April 2011 - 23:12:28




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InfinityZero says : If everytyhing is art then art is Nothing special.
It's common, there would be no surprises, Nothing would be daring or out there, because if everything was art it would make all art monotonous.
Special Means unique or with some uncommon features, but if everything was special it would defeat the purpose of the term.
lol,at least,yeah dude,yeah my friend.... art itself is Nothing SPECIAL!!! at least you said that... oh thank GOD you said it yourself.... art isn't something special of course...  
special is the concept that lies under artwork!!!   and the effect and understanding of that concept is variated for every single person,for every single race,every single culture,every single century...  

Friday 01 April 2011 - 23:15:04
Ughhh...
I was saying if art was everything then it wouldn't be special, but art isn't everything, so it is special.

Friday 01 April 2011 - 23:17:01

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InfinityZero says : Ughhh...
I was saying if art was everything then it wouldn't be special, but art isn't everything, so it is special.
no... special is concept and varies from human to human!!! and art is everything... i'll paint you example and you'll see...


Friday 01 April 2011 - 23:28:56

ok,let's start...
this is facepalm.well just a picture from some movie right?!  it's art itself but why you dont see that it's art?!   here's where daddy deatheys logic starts working.
 
 
now imagine 2 situation.1.you are talking with your friend and you posted this picture to him because he said something dumb.2.you posted this picture on some movie forum and asked,someone knows from which movie is this picture?!  
now let's discuss each situation in 2 variations.
  • 1 situation,variation-A:your friend don't knows what facepalm is and he has no Reaction on this picture,he just asks,whhat is that?
  • 1 situation,variation-B:he knows what facepalm is and has proper Reaction on it.
  • 2 situation,variation-A:someone answered on your question.
  • 2 situation,variation-B:someone thought that you were joking because it's a facepalm picture,and facepalm Means what it Means and had a proper reaction.

here we go.now let's judge.in each variation,the picture is the same but the concept decides it's meaning and moral price.picture itself is an art but concept decides how actual art it is.in situation 1 variation A,your friend don't knows what it Means so for he,this picture hasn't any special cliche or meaning. but in sit.1 var.B he knows it's meaning and he get's the emotion,that lies under the concept of that picture.that proves the fact-this picture is capable to handle multi-mini-concepts.now let's talk about main concept,the main concept is the meaning of facepalm,because it repeats in most of situations (1B;2B),but of course if facepalm was a expression of love,the main concept would be different and alterations of mini-concepts would be depended on it. you can use same example to experiment on anything from mozzart to picaso,from anal Sex to Cremation and you'll see that thousand different art may contain same Conception and only because of that,you think that these thousand ''thing'' isn't art...  

Friday 01 April 2011 - 23:43:41
Dont bullshit the topic .