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Mercenarion
Thursday 17 February 2011 - 00:19:48


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deathey says :


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Mercenarion says : Industrial = Ministry, Celldweller, Godflesh, Killing Joke, Pitchshifter, Swans (meh, kind of)

Electro-industrial uses more electronics. Industrial uses guitars and such, but they use them to sound like electronics, playing very repetetive riffs, but it turns out to a Abrasive electronic kind of sound.

Depeche Mode is darkwave. Duran Duran is synthpop. And yes, KMFDM is industrial.

I like the Abrasive overall sound of regular industrial compared to electro-industrial.

but still,depeche mode and duran duran,KMFDM and freakangel,they are using one kind of beat when other industrial accented bands like KM and M-bab/ using 4th-ed riffs with doubled accents... when talking about plain industrial,you should always consider clean technical aspects of it,not like what style of music it's called... i mean the Killers aren't close to KMFDM right?! but they use same structure as depeche mode,KMFDM etc. so in it's main Core it's plain industrial... electro music is more technical than sound-y so you can't tell what's industrial by how it sounds or what wikipedia calls them,,, you should check their main Core,their clean technical side,riffs,rhytms,accends and based on that you can call it industrial...  
''Industrial uses guitars and such, but they use them to sound like electronics, playing very repetetive riffs, but it turns out to a Abrasive electronic kind of sound. '' -that's close to truth but in the main,there's no matter how guitars sound,or how repetitive riffs are,the main point is rhytm and accent... it's like reggae... even big mountain isn't like bob marley in some aspects the rhytm makes it reggae... with it's (and only) essential accents and rhytms,is decided what to call reggae and what not...


Oops, I see I Forgot to to mention the rhythm

Listening to Ministry or Pitchshifter (old Pitchshifter), you can hear a rhythm in the background that resembles electronics. Take Ministry's "N.W.O". The rhythm is based off of guitars and drums, but it resembles something you'd hear in electronic music rather than something with guitars and such. And the accent seems to be a little more dark.

I can agree with everything else that you said.

deathey
Thursday 17 February 2011 - 00:30:26
"Listening to Ministry or Pitchshifter (old Pitchshifter), you can hear a rhythm in the background that resembles electronics. Take Ministry's "N.W.O". The rhythm is based off of guitars and drums, but it resembles something you'd hear in electronic music rather than something with guitars and such. And the accent seems to be a little more dark."

 -ministry (for me) really seems very experimental... they have some awesome songs,like "let's go" uses jazz rhytmic on... i was like WTF,are they freaked out,when i first listened to them...  Ministry really is something different out of context not industrial,not metal but both in some ways...  in my fav. music list Ministry stands right after Godsmack and 24 black... (well i have 2 kind of fav. bands 1: the bands that are really good in their work,that i like too much and creating Nothing new. 2:the bands that are out of any explanation or theory,bands i may not like but amazed me by creating something new)  Ministry is second kind of band...

Raina
Thursday 17 February 2011 - 00:36:17
Can't say I'm all that crazy about industrial, but I don't dislike it either. It can be pretty enjoyable at times to have some diversity: not a Loaded sound like metal and yet not techno music that is either way too simple or throws you in an epileptic crisis...
 
My knowledge of bands is not so VAST in this Area, but I'll post a list of some Rammstein-like songs I think sound good sometime.

dawn_of_metal
Thursday 17 February 2011 - 16:34:54

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deathey says :  dawn_of_metal-srry bro but there's only Grendel and vogt would be plain electro industrial...  and if you're into industrial,you can't call these ripoffs plain industrial,i mean common,wtf,does ''KROQ'' rings some bells?! what about "KMFDM", "depeche mode","duran duran"?! that's what i call real plain industrial... Grendel continues their traditions as well as vogt (though vogt are pretty weak),freakangel and unter null...  but wtf does ''Kriminal Minds'' and ''M-bab/'' have to do with plain industrial? they even can't use standard industrial beats normally... 

one of my fav's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb7oPySoxH0

Ok, I should have mentioned this earlier. What I call electro industrial doesn't seem to be what you consider it to be. I say electro industrial kinda like I say metal. There is no particular band that is the genre "metal", it's something before the metal like Power Metal Death Metal etc. When you say metal you pretty much mean all of these sub genres together in one word. I say electro industrial in the same way. I didn't even know there was a something called "plain industrial" until I SAW you guys mention it. Is there a better word to say it instead of electro industrial when you mean everything from Industrial Metal to darkwave to EBM etc because the way I say it doesn't seem to be right. Oh and that's another thing, maybe you won't approve that I say that EBM and Industrial Metal falls in the same category but that's just what I'm used to say.


deathey
Thursday 17 February 2011 - 16:46:01
''dawn_of_metal''
   yay man,you should have mentioned it from the start...  

dawn_of_metal
Thursday 17 February 2011 - 17:04:35

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deathey says : ''dawn_of_metal''
   yay man,you should have mentioned it from the start...  
You know a good word to say if you mean all these genres together?


deathey
Thursday 17 February 2011 - 17:06:56

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dawn_of_metal says :

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deathey says : ''dawn_of_metal''
   yay man,you should have mentioned it from the start...  
You know a good word to say if you mean all these genres together?
well industrial is proper word i think   but you should mention that you mean it as whole genre and not as plain industrial...
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