Why do you think right parties get so much support

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miguelangel
message posted the : Tuesday 06 May 2008 at 12:57:12


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To those who are interested in polotics;
 
I want you to give reasons why, in your opinion, right political parties get so much support across Europe.
There are some countries where even right radical parties got the presidency of the land... Why?
 
Please, try to be polite in your answers and use a politically correct language when answering.
 
Thanks to you all,
 
Miguel A.0


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vastAire
message posted the : Tuesday 06 May 2008 at 13:41:18


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Well...

Leftists have had the Power in Europe in some countries and we've all seen how it turned out. Being French, I can tell you that even though Mitterrand was somehow revered accross the globe for 'all' he did to France, he left the country pennyless and with a huge national debt because most socialist countries believe the state should be strong so they tend to hire too many state-people which has the advantage of lowering unemployment but also the drawback of creating huge money losses.

Actually it's just one part of the story, I believe that the sad communist experience the world has had (USSR, Warsaw Pact, China, Cuba, etc...) so sad no one could ever contest it, does not Seduce much people to agree to socialist ideals.

I also believe that they base their politics too much on ideals and less on practice and they tend to put blinders on and keep on believing that the world could be such a happy place, etc, etc. Unfortunately, we don't Live in that kind of world and I think that, whereas most people may regret it (which I doubt), most people are aware that this is such a world and that we've gone too liberal and 'individual' to turn back to socialism.

By the way, some may answer back that Spain or even England have socialist leaders at that time, but let us not be fooled by the word because they're just as socialists as the Democratic Party in the US.

And to give a final world, I'm quitte happy this way.



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Aronax
message posted the : Wednesday 07 May 2008 at 20:45:30


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I do not wanna participate in this thread cause some may accuse me for racism or whatever, but I don't even think there are real right Winged parties in Europe anyway, that what is served as a right opposition or right wing here is nothing but a cheap option how to sell your vote to no one, some of those parties are not even ethnically pure while their goals are ethnically clean country, what a joke.


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vastAire
message posted the : Wednesday 07 May 2008 at 21:05:58


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There is quite a huge difference between right liberal and Extreme fascist right; most countries have both Extreme left and right parties but their ideology is so Extreme they'll never get to political power.

We don't need another NS phenomenom.


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miguelangel
message posted the : Saturday 10 May 2008 at 14:17:35


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En Grave,
why do you think leftist have become so "vague" in their ideals, so blurred that people may not make distinction between right and left parties? Do you think it has to do with the increasing and unstopable growth of the middle-classes? I think it absolutly has to do with it. That is the main reason why Socialism has become an intellectual movement and no longer a practical concept... And turning back to economy, why do you think there is all this stereotype about how good right parties cope with economical issues? I think that is a lobby all round the world, do you agree or not?
By the way, you should know that Socialists in Spain left marxist ideals long time ago, about 50 years more or less and that is is the second oldest Socialist party in the world. Nowadays, it is just Socialism but not Marxism at all.
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LiegeLord
message posted the : Thursday 19 June 2008 at 16:55:22


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Aronax say : some of those parties are not even ethnically pure while their goals are ethnically clean country, what a joke.


Ethnical Purity doesn't exist. Or it would mean a country has lived out of invasions, economic and human exchanges since the beginning of time. It would also mean that these  'ethnically pure' people should be completely degenerated by consanguinity. Finally, a majority of scientists admit the cradle of Humanity is somewhere in the North of Africa, so we should'nt ignore no more we all have Black Blood within us. And if you imagine that all humans are 99,99% similar to each others, you can easily consider that 'ethnical purity' or 'superior races' are ridiculous concepts. This had to be said even if it's not the real topic's subject.



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Aronax
message posted the : Saturday 21 June 2008 at 19:55:01


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I thank you for your input, but I really did not dig that far into the archeology to find my roots, my father is a Russian/Czech/Serb and my mother is a Serb only, I consider myself a Serbian, but who knows what kind of Blood I have in my veins, the point is, I am not black man for sure nor my mother is, or her mother and father... anyway, I didn't mention racial Purity, I said ethical, there is a difference between those terms, for example, it would be stupid that two Hungarians make a political party with party program WE WANT SERBIA FOR SERBS, don't you agree? We actually have such party.


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LiegeLord
message posted the : Saturday 21 June 2008 at 21:49:22


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I better understand what you wanted to say. In fact, I'm a partisan of nation's sovereignty, but the problem is how to define what exactly a nation is. For example, I grew with the idea that Yougoslavia was a country, with cultural and human mixtures that maked itself stronger. The 90's showed me I was wrong. That's the question we need to answer if we want to define the words 'etnical' and "nation'.



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Aronax
message posted the : Sunday 22 June 2008 at 01:52:53


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Yugoslavia was not a nation mate, that was an union, same as USSR, community of more nations, there is no Yugoslavian nationality, but yup, I'm with you, it is hard to define nation since new ones are created every day. btw, I am not an etnical Purity supporter but I am against Mass immigrations, if that makes me an Extreme right, so be it.


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