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  Premier cercle Inscrit le : 22-03-2005 Messages: 6960 | Un statement officiel est apparu sur le site officiel du groupe qui, pour l'occasion a pris l'adresse bizarre de http://strato.jens.org, écrit par les 4 membres restants, c'est à dire Jens Johansson, Timo Kotipelto, Lauri Porra et Jörg Michael. Ces derniers règlent leurs comptes à raison avec Timo Tolkki. Voici l'annonce officielle, que je traduirai pour vous dès demain : Tolkki's main motivation was Greed Timo Tolkki published a statement» on on April 2 this year. The other members of Stratovarius would now like to set the record straight. You can't argue with someone's perception of things, you can just explain how you see things differently. The confrontations, fights, incompetence, tensions, Negativity, bitterness, Hostility, disinterest, bad musicianship, and unfriendliness that Timo described were never there. He constructed this alternate reality around these simple and for HIM painful facts: 1) The band's momentum has been slowing since 2004. 2) The media chaos of 2004 made HIM lose a lot of Trust and respect both within and outside the band. 3) Stratovarius' label Sanctuary had severe financial problems from 2005 on. It forced us to start a legal process at the beginning of 2007. If you Live your life through other people's eyes, declining sales or a perceived loss of Power are matters of deep, stinging personal humiliation. Other sad facts remain. The legal Fight left us without a way to make a new album, and financially strapped. Timo's main motivation for what he did was Greed, not issues of friendship or art. In the summer of 2007, he presented the Stratovarius/ Revolution Renaissance demos we had all financed and recorded to Frontiers Records, and signed a recording agreement for a solo project. Unbelievably, he promised Frontiers that he alone could (and would) stop Stratovarius from being active for the duration of the R.R. project, for marketing reasons. In exchange for this, Timo alone was paid 154,000 US dollars. He did this behind our backs, as we were deep in pursuit of Sanctuary legally with a large legal bill. He still hasn't had the guts to tell us what he did. We pieced it together from various press releases of his and scattered email correspondence. In October he sent us a mail saying he didn't want to continue, a quite impersonal way after having been in the same band for 12 years. He explained that he was tired of Stratovarius, and would concentrate on things like his opera. We had known for some time he really hated playing live. He did not mention anything about his Frontiers deal, which placed the rest of us at great financial risk. He very clearly asked that we wouldn't contact HIM and try to talk HIM out of it, which we all respected. He would later make much of the fact that nobody tried to talk HIM out of it. This year, Sanctuary agreed to settle, but Timo's announcement and Timo's announcement alone ruined that, leaving us with a debt of 54,000 US dollars. The total loss is around 346,000 US dollars. There was no reason for the timing of his announcement other than some foolish belief it would make the promotion of Timo's project record a bit easier. What he did to the rest of us was stupid, selfish and more than disappointing to us since we all stood shoulder to shoulder with him financially in 2004. Then late January, surprisingly, he proposed us playing as hired guns on R.R. (turning it into a Stratovarius record), and doing a tour with Jari on bass. Apparently he again had financial problems due to his failed opera project. He then quickly dismissed the idea himself. In short it's not so much a story of simmering discontent leading to a wise and respectable decision. It's definitely not a story of naivité. It's the story of Faust, the story of madness, of a band's natural and slow decline, but in the end something mundane: the story of a supreme narcissist going broke and betraying friends of 12 years who helped save him a few years earlier. Hopefully this explains the situation a little bit. Sorry if it is long on business crap, and short on humor or music. This was a terrible, disaapointing blow to us. We would like to thank our fans who make it all worth it, and despite it all, we would like to thank Timo for the past, the nice music and the good moments. The rest of us want to make clear that we are doing great and that we will continue making music together, because we care about each other and we care about our fans. We have grand plans indeed, and we will have some very interesting news in the months ahead! -TK JM JJ LP the remaining members of StratovariusCela nous promet des semaines intéressantes...avec des news croustillantes!!  Stratovarius est bien vivant, Vive Strato!!! "Diverses sont les lignes de la vie comme sont les chemins, les contours des montagnes ; ce que nous sommes, Dieu l'achèvera là-haut dans la paix, l'harmonie et l'éternelle grâce." Friedrich Hölderlin "Aimer, ce n'est pas se regarder l'un l'autre, c'est regarder ensemble dans la même direction." Antoine de Saint- Exupéry "L'harmonie la plus douce est le son de la voix de celle que l'on aime." Jean de la Bruyère  | ||
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morgothduverdon |
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 Quatrième cercle Inscrit le : 30-07-2006 Messages: 10180 | N'importe quoi... ça pue leurs histoires.
Ils feraient mieux de changer de nom. 
    
Mode Lemmy activé. Mesdemoiselles, je suis sur le marché, je suis libre. Si vous l'êtes aussi, vous savez où me trouver. Vis tes rêves, ne rêves pas ta vie. | ||
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LiegeLord |
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 Troisième cercle Inscrit le : 14-03-2008 Messages: 279 | C'est vrai que Strato sans Timo...ce n'est plus vraiment Strato. Mais changer de nom aurait des conséquences néfastes sur le compte en banque de ces messieurs! Je doute que Kotipelto -le groupe- vende autant .Enfin, faut voir, Savatage par exemple a sorti de trés bonnes choses sans aucun membre fondateur (Edge Of Thorns, Handful of Rain...), alors pourquoi pas? To my Eternal Brother of Steel , Jeff (1965-2008) May Your Soul Fly Forever In The | ||
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Apophis2036 |
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 Second cercle Inscrit le : 01-07-2007 Messages: 241 | Tous ces fustigations me laissent de marbre... Qu'ils pondent un disque honnête et laissent leurs communautés de fans régler cette affaire : réussite ou échec ? Après, cela ne signifie pas l'arrêt de leur carrière la mort de Stratovarius (si cela devait arriver). Ce fut une chouette aventure - voilà ce que je retiendrais ! Rester de marbre... Un cercueil de lierres tressés... 
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shy62 |
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 Cinquième cercle Inscrit le : 02-12-2007 Messages: 8 | C du n'importe quoi tous leurs blabla !... Timo Tolkki n'est pas irremplaçable...qu'ils nous pondent quelque chose de valable un point C tous !!! | ||
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mayhem666 |
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 Cinquième cercle Inscrit le : 26-12-2007 Messages: 152 | Stratovarius pondre quelque chose de valable. for the beauty of the music,stay extreme! | ||
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morgothduverdon |
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Quatrième cercle Inscrit le : 30-07-2006 Messages: 10180 | Tolkki par irremplaçable? C'est le compositeur musical principal, mais bon...
Mode Lemmy activé. Mesdemoiselles, je suis sur le marché, je suis libre. Si vous l'êtes aussi, vous savez où me trouver. Vis tes rêves, ne rêves pas ta vie. | ||
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Aragorn |
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 Premier cercle Inscrit le : 20-01-2006 Messages: 1697 | @mayhem666 : bien sûr qu'ils sont capables de pondre quelque chose de valable.  Ne crois pas en ce qui paraît, mais en ce qui est. | ||
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morgothduverdon |
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Quatrième cercle Inscrit le : 30-07-2006 Messages: 10180 | Bien plus valable que Deathcrush de Mayhem d'ailleurs (d'un point de vue musical je parle).
Pas de smiley, car je le pense rééllement.
Mode Lemmy activé. Mesdemoiselles, je suis sur le marché, je suis libre. Si vous l'êtes aussi, vous savez où me trouver. Vis tes rêves, ne rêves pas ta vie. | ||
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LiegeLord |
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Troisième cercle Inscrit le : 14-03-2008 Messages: 279 | N'est-ce pas un forum qui traite de musique? Que vient faire Mayhem là-dedans alors ? To my Eternal Brother of Steel , Jeff (1965-2008) May Your Soul Fly Forever In The | ||
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