Everybody has heard (or actually says) opinions on metal that aren't widely accepted. When you say them in a metal bar, the beer suddenly turns sour, the music falls dead, babies Cry and puppies die. Well, here you can post them and comment on them and expose your strange opinions on metal too.

Here are some rules:

- You can add in any post a strange metal opinion but discussion is crucial. So feel free to comment on others and prove that perhaps that opinion isn't as strange or controversial as it is thought to be.

- Be respectful, don't start trolling or hating on somebody for not having the same opinion as you or posting a too controversal opinion.

- This discussion is for fun and to learn some new views on metal. Have fun!

Here's the first one:

Gods of Metal by Manowar isn't that bad, only a bit too symphonic

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I'm a Thread-necromancer mwahahaha^^

Uhm... a band who is calling their music "True Metal"...The album-name "Kings of Metal"... And the last interview in the Metal Hammer with Joey DeMaio... I know I'm not focussed on the music but when I see this arrogance, I can't believe that this album should be good.

I'm young and there are hundreds of band's that I should listen to and Manowar is one of them and one day I will know them better, so don't Burn me at the stake now.^^

An interesting opinion by Nergal( Vocalist of Behemoth):

"Diese ganzen jungen US-Death-Metal-Bands klingen alle grossartig, sie spielen alle so unglaublich perfekt, und es ist alles so unglaublich langweilig. Ich hasse es."
(German Metal Hammer May 2012)

A try of a translation:
"All this young US-Death-Metal band's sound great, all of them are playing so incredibly perfect, and it's so incredibly boring. I Hate it"

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As many people may know, my opinions don't exactly see eye to any with some individuals on this forum. Here are some...

[B]Majority of OSDM is slow, boring and lacks depth and feeling.[/B]
I know that the tr00 fans of metal are suppose to take OSDM as a path from rock. But, I went from; mainstream rock such as Greenday and Yellowcard (both of which I still love)to hardcore/metalcore/Nu Metal such as Bullet For My Valentine, Slipknot etc to Deathcore such as Suicide Silence and bring me the horison (old BMTH) and finally Death Metal such as Suffocation and Cannibal Corpse. So really, I bypassed all the classic stuff. I did listen to stuff like Pink Floyd back in my younger years, but I enjoyed the modern kind of music. And that grew on me, I didn't appreciate classic Death Metal for classic Thrash Metal as some other who may have started with Pink Floyd or Kiss to their path to metal. That probably explains why I like modern music in general because I don't particularly like the majority of first wave black metal. Well, there's my justification

[B]Burzum is overrated [/B]
Well, I'll cop a lot of shit for this. But I don't see why Burzum is hailed as one of the greatest Black Metal artists Ever to walk the Earth. Sure, I like a few songs here and there, but I just can't fathom how people can; like his vocals, say his song writing is awesome and he is musically talented. Ok, yes he did make a few good passages here and there in some of his tracks and his music can be slightly technical... but that doesn't make him gods gift to black meta. In my personal opinion, I reckon Burzum is a purely conceptual artist and if you don't get it, you don't get it. People shouldn't be flamed for not liking or understanding him.

[B]Neo Nazi bands are bad[/B]
One of the strangest things in metal. Yes, we'll allow you to talk about murder, Mutilation, rape, vulgar, Suicide, the devil... but Neo Nazi is not allowed. Really, that's where the line is drawn? if we can have the other Evil stuff, fuck it, might as well have the lot. Just because someone listens to neo nazi bands, doesn't make them automatically a Nazi. The reason why National Socialist Black Metal bands are bad, isn't because of the lyrics its because we haven't seen a good one yet.

I do apologise if I've enraged anyone, or have Violated the rule of having a "too controversial opinion" but...I've tried to justify my point of view as best as possible. I don't mind a friendly debate either

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I remember having fun once, it was terrible...

Alright, time for a complete contrast to the last thing mini said.

NSBM is brilliant. Fanisk (also including Eldrig), M8L8TH, Grand Belial's Key, Goatmoon and pretty much all of the bands that were part of the BlazeBirth Hall are incredible bands. Now, obviously there are duds, like all scenes in music. For example, fuck Absurd.

Blessed Are the Sick is Morbid Angel's best album (not necessarily a bone of contention, but seeing as the majority of people hold Altars of Madness as their greatest album, this different opinion still counts).

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Last.fm: Mercenarion

The most controversial one:

I LIKE Dimmu Borgir

NSBM ... Shall I remind you all that this Metal genre is based on antisemitism? I don't see how you can support such bands... Varg from Burzum surely is a disturbed guy for example, burning churches isn't a problem AT ALL for me, but putting antisemitism stuff in your lyrics is unacceptable and it's a shame for Metal music. I love Black Metal, I really support it, but NSBM is bad for Metal Music, bad for it's reputation and bad for it doesn't reflect any true Metal spirit, NSBM is just based on Hate and lack of education.

That's my opinion.

Hail to the Metal in all it's genres, but not NSBM...

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[B]Neo Nazi bands are bad[/B]
One of the strangest things in metal. Yes, we'll allow you to talk about murder, Mutilation, rape, vulgar, Suicide, the devil... but Neo Nazi is not allowed.

TOTALLY AGREE with all you said mini!

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There is great NSBM bands...

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I think his Sarcasm was lost on you! XD
 
I don't mind that mini doesn't like Burzum.
After all, he likes Suicide Silence XD
 
Here's mine:
Reign IN Blood IS A PIECE OF SHIT.
 
Seriously, it has Nothing worthwhile in it and considering that Carcass and Napalm Death already took Slayer's "innovation" to an Extreme in the same year as RIB's release, it's not highly unique either.It's monotonous and trashy and loud and stupid just for the sake of loud and stupid. Tom Araya is incredibly annoying in it. And I blame the album for inspiring a lot of other shit thrash albums such as Pleasure to Kill.
 
I agree with Merc. Blessed Are the Sick is better than Altars. The songs vary a lot more and there are several absolutely perfect songs on the album like Abominations and Fall From Grace that are clear highlights whereas with Altars every song was more or less equally good. Not saying that there are bad songs on Blessed, though.
 
I haven't explored NSBM because I frankly can't get over the stupidity of white nationalists. And I think mini's wrong about it being hypocritical to be okay with satanist themes and not okay with white nationalist themes. Most of these 'hail satan' bands are mainly exploring themes out of a Morbid curiosity and I doubt any of them really wants to murder Christians. Their interest in occultism and demons just inspires them to explore legends and myths. National Socialism is an idiotic political/pseudo philosophical view and the people who are in those bands usually hold those beliefs. I also don't explore Christian black Metal bands because they hold stupid beliefs. That being said, if I stumbled across a good NSBM band on my own I'd listen to them even after finding out they were NSBM (After All, I listen to Burzum and think Varg's nuts), but I don't actively pursue those types of bands, just like I didn't actively pursue Burzum.

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Yes, white nationalists are stupid indeed.

The thing which gets me about NSBM is how superficial it is in comparison with the other black Metal genres. Sure, there are many concepts that "satanism" bring which make sense. I was watching an interview which featured a band member from Mayhem (I Forgot which particular band member), but he talked about what he thought on Satanic ideals and described it as "freedom" and "lawlessness", which makes a lot of sense considering how closed Christianity is. Not just "FUCK YEAH, Satan RULES MOTHERFUCKERS!!! YEAAAAHHH!", some of the philosophy behind it makes sense. NSBM on the other Hand is just mindlessness taken to the extreme.

Let me show you an example, here are lyrics from a band called Aryan Terrorism (what a stupid name)

"Shoot the niggers
Shoot them fucking all
A National Socialistic Call
Pull the trigger
Shoot subhuman all
A New Order for a New World
White Power!"

What a load shit right?

Also I don't consider Grand Belial's Key or Goatmoon to be anywhere close to being national socialistic. Just because they drop a few "J" bombs in one of their tracks and beat around the Bush to make a single implication (which is open to interpretation) about anti-semitism, and then suddenly all the music they've made, and all music they're going to make is considered NSBM, c'mon... If that's the case, I better start calling Metallica experimental Metal then.

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I remember having fun once, it was terrible...